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rar

Dude how's it going!? Long time no talk haha. Phil.e. (talk) 17:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

ZOMG, it's Phil.e.! Like Obi-Wan Kenobi would say, "now that's a name I've not heard in a long time".
Things have certainly changed a bit since we last spoke, but it's mostly good. :) Do you still use IRC? It'd be nice to talk to you in real time (although IRC's not exactly a real-time communication method, but it's close enough) — see my user page for my IRC (and other) contact details.
But enough about me — I'd be curious to know where you've spent the last couple years! --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 20:12, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Glad to hear mostly good! I've not gone on IRC much in a while, but I'll get XChat again so it'll feel just like the old days. When would you be free to chat? I'm busy for what's this afternoon for me(EST), but I'll be free 10pm EST or tomorrow. I actually renewed my nick on Freenode over summer, though it probably expired again since lol. Phil.e. (talk) 17:06, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm online 24/7 (yay for bouncers!), but whether I'm available is a different matter — it varies on a day-to-day basis depending on things like issues needing my urgent attention, matters to resolve and positioning of the stars. ;-) Try pinging/messaging me to see if I'll reply; if not, I'm probably not around at the moment.
Time zones confuse me most of the time, but thankfully there are search engines out there which can be used to discover all sorts of fun time zone conversion websites. 10PM EST translates to 5AM local time, which means that I should be asleep at that hour. I hope we can talk on IRC soon, despite time zones and other fun little things! --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 17:22, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Ah I miss learning about stuff like that, after wikia my usual internet hangout was 4chan, which is rarely a good source of knowledge lol. I feel you, in that case I'll give it a few tries on #mediawiki or pm (since I doubt our old cabal channels are still around lol) tomorrow; I'm sure we'll catch each other at some point ;) Phil.e. (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


  • Hey, merry Christmas! Been meaning to get on IRC one of these days, so til then hope your holiday's going great and all is well! Phil.e. (talk) 04:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Merry Christmas to you too! My Christmas was very fun, thanks for asking, and I hope yours was too! :-)
      What's more, we've been working on some pretty nifty stuff for ShoutWiki — if you haven't read it already, you'll definitely want to take a look at our most recent blog post! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 18:00, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Nityanica-lite

On Nityanica-lite project constantly lapping vandals. Ask as project administrator, to prevent the creation of accounts. Thanks in advance. --Кайзер Вильгельм (talk) 13:51, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Restricting the creation of accounts won't do any good, I'm afraid, because accounts are shared between all ShoutWiki wikis, so the problem users in question could just go to a different wiki and create an account there. I've however enabled the AbuseFilter extension on s:w:nityanica-lite, so you or another admin can write custom rules to prevent certain kinds of actions from taking place. The MediaWiki.org page about AbuseFilter's rules' format might be of use, too.
Please let me or another ShoutWiki staff member know if the vandalism persists or should you need any help with AbuseFilter and writing rules for it. --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 17:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Top-level forums need prominent exposure

Hi again. I think the forums here need prominent exposure in order to get more people participating.

Wikia's hub wiki gives their top-level forums prominent exposure. The forums are openly linked from the top of every page on Wikia's Community Central hub wiki. The forums link is not in a sub-level menu farther down the page.

I suggest putting a forum link right after "Create a wiki" in the sidebar. People like community, but usually only if it is prominent and popular. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I've added a link in the getting help section. Best regards,--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 23:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I hope that it helps. I note that some people who have chosen Vector in preferences (like me) may not see the forum link if they have closed that help subsection. It seems that the closing is remembered on subsequent pages that are launched. I don't know how many people are using Vector though while viewing the hub wiki. --Timeshifter (talk) 03:58, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello, I just wanted to thank you for responding to my topic and helping me with my Wiki site. I also appreciate the compliment about Sega Sonic Wiki's look. ^_^ I'll be adding my Wiki to the description page.

BessDreamer (talk) 15:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! Let's hope that'll help people to find the wiki. :-) --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 18:11, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Old search JS was broken. Removed it from MediaWiki:Common.js on the Cannabis wiki

I am commenting here since I am not sure you will see my message here:

Please see MediaWiki:Common.js on the Cannabis wiki, and its history.

It seems the old JS was no longer working right for me too. It not only automatically opened search results in a new tab. It also opened them in the same tab. So it was creating 2 search result pages. It shouldn't have been doing that. I added a note about this problem at the top of the source page here:

So I removed the old JS from MediaWiki:Common.js on the Cannabis wiki. Instead I added JS that provides an option to open search results in a new tab. It works via Ctrl-click (PC) and Command-click (Mac). It is working fine for me. I haven't had any problems with the popup blocker in the browser I use (Firefox).

I copied the current JS from working gadget JS from the Wikimedia Commons. See:

--Timeshifter (talk) 12:12, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, the old JS was triggering the popup browser for me most of the time instead of submitting the search query and opening up the results in a new window.
The current JS looks good and it appears to be certainly more flexible than the old one, because now the user is able to choose where they want to open up the search results — in the same tab or in a new window.
It's a shame that many JS snippets (both on Wikimedia sites and off-Wikimedia ones) go unmaintained, and nothing seems to have become of the grand plans to have a centralized gadget repository...
--Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 18:11, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

create wiki

  • Shoutwiki administrators,

We are from Worldpedia. Thank you for providing this platform for us to create a platform for traditional Chinese users to contribute. Our aim is to create an online encyclopedia for all Traditional Chinese users, and therefore we want to create more different language versions of Worldpedia in order to benefit every single person on Earth. However, a person could only apply for five websites at most, and this restricted the development of Worldpedia. We hope that you could kindly change the restrictions, and provide a precious opportunity for Worldpedia to develop in the future. Thank you again for providing an opportunity for us.

Yours faithfully,--Msnhinet8 (talk) 09:00, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Msnhinet8, I'm happy to hear that you like ShoutWiki! :-) While the five wikis per user limit isn't going away, we encourage you to contact us privately so that we can sort out issues like these on a case-by-case basis. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 22:03, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Updating Semantic MediaWiki

Hi Jack,
Is it possible please to update the Semantic MediaWiki release up to the 1.8.0.5 version on all my semantic wikis (as well as the others Semantic SW wikis) as there were some identified bugs on previous releases (currently, we use 1.8.0.1 on SW). I posted a bug on bugzilla long ago (bug #220) yet no answer was given (I know you are quite busy this time and this was not a priority). One of the identified bugs is a count in statistics of semantic namespace pages. Thank you for your answer. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 11:14, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi LIMAFOX76, and apologies for the delay in responding to that bug report! The 1.22 upgrade, and especially the very mysterious post-upgrade bug with user preferences that was happening only on production sites, not on our devboxes, certainly kept us busy.
That being said, Semantic MediaWiki isn't exactly our favorite extension to upgrade due to its complicated dependencies and whatnot. Also, there's the upstream bug #58182, although from what I gather, it seems to apply only to SMW 1.9.x series.
I'll talk to Lewis about upgrading Semantic MediaWiki before the holidays. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 22:03, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Special Wikis

Hello, how to appers my wiki in the "and in other languages" section. What are the requirements ? Thanks and I wait your answer (sorry for my bad english) --Cruz (talk) 22:02, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

There aren't any hard requirements, but generally speaking all of the wikis listed on the "No such wiki" page have over 200 content articles and their administrators have put effort into the wikis. If you'll give me a link, I can take a look at your wiki and add it to the "No such wiki" page. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 15:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
Kinder Wiki has +600 content articles. This is our wiki. --Cruz (talk) 16:48, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
I've added the Kinder Wiki to the message. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 21:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

API Error

Hi! We want make a bot for copy articles for other old wiki (out of ShoutWiki) but we can't do it. When we do an action (movement) in API, this thing don't give any result, just say "boot (false)". What is the problem here? --Cruz (talk) 19:57, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

This is the login script:
 
 <?php
 require_once('Snoopy.class.php');
 
 $snoopy = new Snoopy;

 $request_vars = array('action' => 'login', 'lgname' => 'USERNAME', 
        'lgpassword' => 'PASS', 'format' => 'php');
        if(!$snoopy->submit("http://kinder.shoutwiki.com/w/api.php", $request_vars))
                die("Snoopy error: {$snoopy->error}");
                $snoopy->setcookies(); 
                $array_ = unserialize($snoopy->results);
                var_dump($array_);
                
 
        $request_vars = array('action' => 'login', 'lgname' => 'USERNAME', 
        'lgpassword' => 'PASS','lgtoken'=>$array_['login']['token'].'', 'format' => 'php');
        if(!$snoopy->submit("http://kinder.shoutwiki.com/w/api.php", $request_vars))
                die("Snoopy error: {$snoopy->error}");
                $snoopy->setcookies();
                $array_ = unserialize($snoopy->results);
                var_dump($array_);
 
 
                                $snoopy->setcookies();
 ?>

With any other wiki using mediawiki it works, but using the shoutwiki API the request return a "bool(false)" result. Regards. --Dodo (talk) 20:06, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

  1. What version of MediaWiki were the other sites using?
  2. What version of the Snoopy HTTP library were you using?
I briefly tested this script with various different sites running MediaWiki, both ShoutWiki and non-ShoutWiki ones, and it worked only once (this was on a non-ShoutWiki wiki). Generally speaking you'll most likely want to use pywikibot, written in Python, as it's well-maintained and there's an active community to help you out. You might also want to check out the "API:Client code" page on MediaWiki.org for other possibilities. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 21:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

InstantCommons

Thank you :) --Cruz (talk) 00:50, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 01:47, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

kinder (english)

http://en.kinder-en.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bureaucrat I am working as sysop in en.kinder-en Please we need linking to commons directly --Penarc (talk) 01:15, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

I've enabled InstantCommons for s:w:en.kinder-en. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 01:47, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Better CAPTCHA tests

This is interesting:

I notice a lot of spam pages created on the Hub wiki when I check recent changes. I don't know how much of it is due to automated account creation. Or how many spammers are not native English speakers. So I thought you might be interested in the type of challenge-response used for Wikiapiary signup.

To protect the wiki against automated account creation, we kindly ask you to answer the question that appears below (more info):
Please provide the seventh character from the sequence e797244e:

The character asked for changes. Sometimes the second character, or fourth, etc.. A non-native English speaker could use Google translation. But at least it would slow down spammers. Only the dedicated spammers would remain. Honest signups would not mind having to use Google translation since they would only have to do it once. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:28, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

This is the QuestyCaptcha extension (which is bundled with the ConfirmEdit extension), and while it indeed is quite effective and useful, it unfortunately does not scale at the moment. By not scaling I refer to the fact that the extension doesn't have a management special page — adding or removing questions and/or answers requires editing the wiki's settings file.
Thank you for the suggestion nevertheless. :-) We're always looking into new anti-spam measures and enhancing the pre-existing ones and rest assured that we will continue to work on anti-spam measures and monitor the overall spam situation — and, as always, play whack-a-spambot. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 03:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Lol. I was thinking that such a tool needed multiple questions that changed every time a registration was attempted. That way bots couldn't be easily programmed to defeat it. Especially if completely new questions were added from time to time. A pool of fifty to a hundred questions would be nice. Multiple pools, each having fifty questions, could be switched in and out of use. That would leave only the dedicated manual spammers over time, and most of them would get irritated. A good thing. :) --Timeshifter (talk) 22:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Unblock me

I'm the founder runet.shoutwiki.com, gave administrator rights acquaintance party (Pyhet), but he blocked me. I can not remove it, I beg you to do so as attacks still continue. Золотой Парень (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Since you're the wiki's founder, you should be able to give yourself the admin rights back via s:w:runet:Special:UserRights. Once you've done that, you can also change other users' rights via that same special page.
Please let me know if you're not able to do this. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 23:18, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
User is blocked

Your user name or IP-address has been blocked.
Block succeeded administrator Pyhet. The reason given is "vandalism".
Start of block: 13:21, December 3, 2013
Expiry of block: unlimited
The purpose of the lock: Золотой Парень
Золотой Парень (talk) 09:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, strange, I remembered that you could be able to use that special page even when blocked.
In any case, I've removed your block now. Do let me (or another staff member) know if you need any further assistance with the situation. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 10:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
No longer necessary. Thanks for the help! Золотой Парень (talk) 05:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
If possible, remove the wiki. Vandal broke all the easier to create a new. Золотой Парень (talk) 07:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I have deleted your wiki. If you make a new wiki, please be careful who you give admin rights to. Make sure they are actually helpful users who will improve your wiki, rather than destroy it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ ShoutWiki Staff 14:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
In short, remove the wiki again, but for all, protection from creation to avoid trolling. Vandal cracks passwords of all participants, making the attack through a script and remove tired, and I can not, because all rights are removed from the administration and all its members will be blocked.

Also erase and protect from creating Dearth of Golden Boy - trolling the same on the main wiki, on my own, Russian language.
PS: protection of creation - is meant ban creating subdomain with the same name plus the name of the wiki ban with the same name.
Sorry, but I will leave your project.
Золотой Парень (talk) 12:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Starter for Polish wikis

Hi! I'm on ShoutWiki recently, cash but I know very well on MediaWiki. Now the main question. Can you create a starter for the Polish Wiki? Currently it is not, and would come in handy. And if you create, whether you could take me there to appoint an admin? Gorden 20:51, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gorden, thank you for your interest in improving ShoutWiki! :-) I've created the Polish starter wiki at pl.starter.shoutwiki.com and made you an administrator there. The wiki is completely empty, as I figured it'd be easier for you to manually copy-paste the few pages from the English starter wiki (there's the main page, some staff user and user talk pages, four templates, three categories and the default logo image). Let me know when you're done with the translation so that we can enable the Polish starter in our wiki creation wizard as an option for all Polish-language wikis — I'm sure the starter package is especially helpful for newer wiki founders!
Finally, if you're up for a challenge, there are some ShoutWiki skins and extensions which have either an incomplete Polish localization or no localization at all. For example, our upcoming Aurora skin, which will be launched really soon, has 7 internationalization messages which require translation. Or the ProblemReports feature, which has a Polish localization but is missing just three translations. These features can be translated via our Interface Messages Wiki — translating requires admin rights, which I'm more than happy to give you if you're interested in this task.
Thank you for improving the ShoutWiki experience for our Polish users! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 12:03, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks :-) Gorden 13:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Starter was completed. You can enable the Polish starter in wiki creation wizard. What to Messages Wiki, there I can be an admin and translate :) Gorden 15:17, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Done — the Polish starter should now be active and available as an option for all users who are creating a new Polish wiki.
I've given you administrator rights on the Interface Messages Wiki, so you're able to translate over there, too! Documentation is likely to be somewhat outdated, so you might want to go through Special:AllMessages to look for untranslated messages in the meanwhile. If you encounter a confusing message or you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me!
Finally, thank you for your hard work! :-) --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 15:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
:-). And if you can, can you appoint me an admin on Polish hub ShoutWiki? This is my last question. Gorden 15:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Done — please take good care of it!
If and when you're up for a real task, the local help pages need a lot of love; it would be absolutely fabulous to make these help pages available for all Polish wikis! This kind of functionality is available for English, Finnish, French and Dutch wikis, as our help pages are available in those language, but the Polish translations are very much incomplete — perhaps you'll be the one to complete them? ;-) --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 15:55, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Sure! Gorden 15:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you do it for the French starter, as it doesn't exist yet?

Hi Jack,
is it possible to create a French Starter wiki as well please? Thank you very much.--LIMAFOX76 (talk) 15:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Et voilà ! I've given you administrator rights over there as well, so you can get started right away. Thanks for making ShoutWiki even more awesome! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 15:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much Jack ;-)--LIMAFOX76 (talk) 15:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Avec plaisir ! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 15:55, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Delete Sonicpedia

Hi Jack,
can you delete Sonicpedia and allow me create one wiki? Thanks, — Gorden 14:45, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I wrote this question, because in the wizard creation wiki writes me that I created 5 wiki, and I founded only 4 wiki. Is this a mistake on the side of ShoutWiki, or from you? — Gorden 17:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Do you want Sonicpedia deleted just so that you can create another wiki? In my opinion, Sonicpedia looks like a wiki with a lot of potential — Sonic the Hedgehog is popular all around the globe! — so I'd suggest reconsidering whether you really want it deleted.
In any case, there's no mistake in our records — you've started five wikis, which are s:w:pl.gorden, s:w:pl.sonic, s:w:pl.gorden-school, s:w:pl.tardis and s:w:pl.sf. While I don't want to discourage you, starting just one wiki — let alone five — can be a daunting task. Creating a new wiki is easy as pie with our wiki creation wizard, but what the wizard can't create for you is the community — the people behind the wiki who make it awesome. Yes, you can work on a wiki all by yourself, but it's generally speaking a lot faster (and more fun, too!) to write with other people than just on your own.
I suggest that you consider what wikis you really want to focus on and start building these. If you really want to create a new wiki, please get in touch with me again. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 17:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
I forgot about s:w:pl.gorden, sorry. What to Sonicpedia, I changed my mind — I don't want it removed. To be honest, I wanted to create one, and only one wiki. It is a "Dziwopedia". Wiki should be Polish. The skin has to be dark monobook. The prefix "pl." is not to be. Import content from starter wiki — yes. License wiki is a "public domain". This is my last wiki that I want to create. Thanks, — Gorden 18:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
s:w:dziwopedia exists now, please take good care of it! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 22:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

申請wiki

  • 嗨!我可以請你幫我申請一個維基嗎?因為我已經申請超過五個維基了，所以我現在無法申請新維基，可以請您幫我申請一個新維基嗎?你可以去google翻譯一下。--Msnhinet8 (talk) 03:55, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Please write in English, I don't understand Chinese. Sorry. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 22:42, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Comments on Aurora Skin

Hello Jack Phoenix, thank you for replying to my topic and letting me know of the new site Skin called Aurora. ^_^ I also wanted to thank you for providing me a link to the Skins since it helped me find a way to make my wiki site return to its previous Skin. At first, I was concerned of seeing the Aurora skin on my wiki site since I initially believed it was going to be permanent and there would be no option to change it. I felt it was very sudden since I'm use to a site administrator announcing a feature or skin and the consumer having the option to choose it rather than it automatically be implemented into their personal page.


What I like about the Aurora skin is the blue gradient color on the ShoutWiki logo and the beautiful blue butterfly. I also like the gradient icons matching the link's title like Speak bubble for Discussion and an image of tools for the Page tools. The addition of the timer on the upper right corner of the screen is a nice idea. I like how the text of a person's username is bolder and the human icon with a diamond next to it.


One of the things I personally dislike is the main content area(like the Main Page) looks too condensed like in a box. It causes the advertisements to be placed at odd locations and too distracting from the site's content. While I think the two-toned gray gradient background is very attractive, the color is a little too dark. Most sites usually have black text and a dark gray background would make it extra hard to see, especially for people who do not have perfect eyesight. I personally like the white background or a softer color so the website would look more inviting.


BessDreamer (talk) 03:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi BessDreamer and thank you for your detailed feedback! I'm glad you found our help pages useful! We're constantly updating our help pages in order to make them even better and even more useful.
While the actual deployment was, as deployments generally are, rather quick, rest assured that the design itself wasn't thrown together overnight. ;-) We've been working on it for a while and we'll continue making improvements based on feedback. Some of the upcoming changes in version 2.0.1 of Aurora include:
  • labels for the top menus (navigation/tools)
  • smaller default logo image
  • smaller search area on devices where space is more limited (e.g. smartphones, especially somewhat older models, lower-end tablets, etc.)
It does look as if the content's in a box, but then again, the same can be said for the other skins, too — the effect's probably just a bit more visible in Aurora due to the usage of a darker color scheme.
As for the background, you should be able to make that white with div#content { color: #FFF; } in your personal aurora.css or on your wiki's MediaWiki:Aurora.css page.
Again, thank you for taking the time to write down your detailed thoughts on the skin and please keep the feedback coming — it's essential to us! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 20:14, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Aurora skin messages

Hi, I've translated skin messages into Russian on my GraviTac wiki. In case you need them for global translation. -- Krabb (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Krabb, thank you for your contribution! I've copied the messages over to our Interface Messages Wiki, so the translations are automatically shown for Russian wikis and users who use Russian as their interface language.
If you're interested in translating more features to Russian, I can give you translator rights on the Interface Messages Wiki so you can translate directly there and the changes will immediately show up for all Russian ShoutWiki wikis and users. :) --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 20:14, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't have enough time for that. I haven't even finished all that I had planned for GraviTac. -- Krabb (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Alright, no worries and thanks for the Aurora translations! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 19:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Missing Module

Hello! After testing back and forth I think my "Seikai" wiki is missing some wikimedia module(s) because the code works fine elsewhere. Use the following test code with Template:SandboxA 

{{SandboxA|string=something}}

It gives out 

Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "#".

It's either the math or parser module or?

On a side note, within a template the engine recognizes vertical lines inside the image link tags as part of template code e.g. it ignores the link tag and refers to for example the outer #if: 

{{#if: {{a}}|[[image:a.gif|x{{b}}px]]|}}

does not work 

{{#if: {{a}}|[[image:a.gif<noinclude>|</noinclude>x{{b}}px]]|}}

does work

Almael (talk) 00:30, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Your wiki was missing the Loops extension, which provides the #while parser function (among others). I've installed it so your template should now work (although I have to say I'm not quite sure how it's supposed to work, but I tested the extension with some of the examples on its MediaWiki.org description page and they seemed to work). --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 20:20, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Yeah, the given while code is a bit weird. I'm not sure about reappearing string part after the counter/length check. As to the template it's just a simplified test where I narrowed down the error. The full version is too complicated, and I still need to work out some weirdness I can't figure out yet why. Practically, the code works fine it's just the special cases that don't. I'm down to testing every single piece now. Might take a while. Almael (talk) 22:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Uhm, using the updated test template but the generated image linking don't work. I get non-existing image links instead of an image. I'm sure I uploaded them. Anyway, the filename don't appear on the page but do when you mouse over them. I'm using TestPageA, Templates SandboxA, and Transl Ath. Almael (talk) 22:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind. It's some parameter weirdness. Although, the parameter is supposed to be nil if nothing is set {{{c|}}} it's dealt as if the expression itself is the content if I don't set it. And I did set a default just in case anyway, too, but didn't work. This is happens for the template (Transl Ath) being called by the initial template. Almael (talk) 05:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

New Skin

Hello :D. Can you add the skin Oasis to ShoutWiki? thanks :) --DeviantSalens (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Short answer, no. We can't. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ ShoutWiki Staff 23:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Why? --DeviantSalens (talk) 01:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
This skin is quite unpopular among ShoutWiki users because imposed by Wikia Staff and non practical at all (it's a long story), and was one of the reasons (among many others) why many former Wikia users (including myself) decided to move their wikis on SW. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 15:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
None of the staff like the skin and the demand for it is very very small. Also, it's the signature skin of Wikia and we don't want people to confuse us with them. Also, there's the fact that the skin is hideous, hard to find anything on, gives some people headaches and is confusing to editors. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ ShoutWiki Staff 21:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, many people moved here because of it. Not to mention the editor is buggy when switching between visual and source e.g. for certain types of table. You can as well rewrite the whole thing. To be fair the good thing are the displayed choices of existing categories and templates so noobs can finish articles somewhat better. Almael (talk) 23:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Time for German pageview ShoutWiki!

Hi Jack,
I noticed that the German hub ShoutWiki doesn't exist, and most of the messages isn't German. Recently I learned German at level 2. If you want, I can start to translate these messages and translate the German hub. But you must create this hub.

One more thing. I need admin permissions here because the help pages here are protected — so I can not create interwiki to Polish help pages. If you give it to me, I will try to create all interwiki (to Sunday I have a lot of time). — Gorden 09:55, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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